Can A Believer Ever Be Lost? - H.A. IRONSIDE Refuted!
H.A. IRONSIDE Refuted!
Pastor Ironside was among the worse of the early twentieth century Calvinists spreading the false doctrine of reformed theology. The reader should note that he seldom used more than a 'snippet' of scripture to substantiate his notions. Regardless what 'else' scripture may say about the subject in question, his conclusions were final. Like his contemporaries he relied on his listeners having a very 'limited' knowledge of the Bible, and being easily persuaded with smooth sounding words and flattering speech. Similar to Moody, Spurgeon, Pink, Tozer and other famous Calvinists, they do not understand Repentance and Faith PROVEN By Deeds, as the Scripture Clearly reveals and Preach a 'Faith Alone' message, codified by previous teachers who separate a 'Working' Faith from an intellectual acceptance. Thus a person can be 'Saved' or (elect) and remain in bondage to inbred sin because he is 'imputed' or credited with the Righteousness & Obedience of Christ.
The Following is a Series of Questions directed to Mr. Ironside and his Explanations. With Refutation from the Bible:
Can A Believer Ever Be Lost?
According to Ironside:
It has been announced that I will speak to you on a subject which has occasioned a good deal of controversy among the people of God. I want to take as a starting point--not exactly as a text, because we shall be looking at a good many Scriptures--Romans 8:38-39: “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor power, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” This is the inspired answer to the question of verse 35: “Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?” That is, once we have been justified by faith, who is there, what power is there, that can separate from the love of Christ? And the answer, how full, how clear, not a shadow, not a doubt, not a question left, when the apostle says that neither death nor life shall separate! Can you think of anything which is neither included in death nor in life? Neither death nor life shall separate!
No unseen powers can separate the believer from Christ, “neither angels, nor principalities, nor powers.” These terms are used again and again in the New Testament, particularly in the Epistles, for angelic hosts, good and evil. When our Savior rose from the dead He spoiled principalities and powers, that is, He defeated all the hosts of evil led by Satan; and so we may take it that the angels referred to here are good angels, and the principalities and powers are possible evil angels. But there is nothing that good angels would do and nothing that evil angels can do which will result in the separation of the believer from Christ. And then further he says, “neither things present nor things to come.” Again let me put the question, Can you think of any experience through which a believer might ever go which is neither a thing present nor a thing to come? And the Holy Ghost says that neither things present nor things to come shall be able to separate us from the love of Christ. As though that were not enough, He speaks in a more general way when He says that neither “Height nor depth (nothing in heaven, nothing in hell), nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” It looks to me as though we are safe if we are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
According to the Bible:
Every eternal security preacher who ever lived cherishes Rom8:38-39 as the Cornerstone of their doctrine. BUT NO WHERE in this passage is it implied that a child of God is secure while engaged in known & willful sin. (Heb10:26) The Scriptures clearly teach that willful disobedience to the truth will be Judged, Rom2:7-10, and those who refuse to remain Steadfast in the Faith WILL NOT inherit the Kingdom of heaven! Check it out for yourself. (Col1:21-23, 1Cor15:1-2, Heb3:12-14, 1John2:24, 5:13, Matt10:22) These passages are clear & very precise, ignore them at your own peril.
The Rich young man in Mark10:17-22 clearly rejected the Kingdom of heaven because he freely choose to 'covet' his worldly goods more than Jesus. What does the scripture say in 10:21, "Jesus, looking at him, LOVED him and said, One thing you lack, go & sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven, then come, TAKE UP your cross and follow ME!" Although NOTHING could separate this man from God's love, he still missed heaven because he refused to Count the Cost and Follow His Lord. That's why Rom8:38-39 is NOT teaching that we have absolute eternal security in Christ. Note the Goodness and the Severity of God, on those who fell, severity, but toward you goodness, IF YOU CONTINUE in His goodness, otherwise you also will be CUT OFF! Rom11:22
Don´t refuse to Count the Cost!!!
DON´T BE A GOAT!!!